ceiling but for every dollar we raise that debt ceiling, we'll lower spending by a dollar. so i am in favor of keeping that agreement. >> but keeping that agreement, if the sequester goes into effect, according to the cbo, it says it will cut u.s. growth in half. it will cost at least 1 million jobs and jobs by extension, consumers, which drive the economy. don't you agree that losing 1 million jobs will be disastrous to the recovery? >> if you turn just to the cbo, the stimulus of three years ago would have solved all of our problems and we would not have had all the difficulties we have today. would have led to tremendous gdp growth. neither does the cbo ever report or take into consideration the impact the huge debt has on the growth of our gdp and job creation. we can have a philosophical fight about whether or not you can cut your way to prosperity as the president says or spend your way to disaster, as i contend. but that's not the issue here. the issue here is that we agreed 18 months ago for a dollar's worth of spending reductions for every worth of dollar increase.